Comments on: ChurchPlantSpeak ‘07 http://faithuntamed.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/06/churchplantspeak-07/ Living The Life Jesus Called Us To Live Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:20:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: martyschmidt http://faithuntamed.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/06/churchplantspeak-07/#comment-2381 martyschmidt Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:41:24 +0000 http://faithuntamed.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/06/churchplantspeak-07/#comment-2381 Scott, Glad to see you haven't let this subject drop. I am familiar with a failed plant since the previous post as well and before they even started it seemed as if the entire motivation was wrong. I've also run into a number of people who tell me they are a part of a plant that started in and they throw out a year that is a decade or older. At what time should you be planted? I like how you fleshed out specifically what you are doing for prayer and showing others you care. We have just dedicated the first Wednesday of each month as our prayer time. I would like to know what leadership development looks like for you? I hope my words don't come off meaning something they don't but I believe we have the main thing (our sundays morning & not that it is the main thing but people definetly view it as such and I could go on but..) up and running but now I'm exploring how to gain depth. I've chosen to offer a mens prayer and study group twice a month. But like I said - I'm curious what you are doing? Are you specifically picking people? Scott,

Glad to see you haven’t let this subject drop. I am familiar with a failed plant since the previous post as well and before they even started it seemed as if the entire motivation was wrong. I’ve also run into a number of people who tell me they are a part of a plant that started in and they throw out a year that is a decade or older. At what time should you be planted?
I like how you fleshed out specifically what you are doing for prayer and showing others you care. We have just dedicated the first Wednesday of each month as our prayer time.
I would like to know what leadership development looks like for you? I hope my words don’t come off meaning something they don’t but I believe we have the main thing (our sundays morning & not that it is the main thing but people definetly view it as such and I could go on but..) up and running but now I’m exploring how to gain depth. I’ve chosen to offer a mens prayer and study group twice a month. But like I said - I’m curious what you are doing? Are you specifically picking people?

]]> By: jean http://faithuntamed.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/06/churchplantspeak-07/#comment-2379 jean Sat, 08 Dec 2007 10:25:17 +0000 http://faithuntamed.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/06/churchplantspeak-07/#comment-2379 Writing about church planting Moynagh says'` between 1989 and 1998 only 1,867 churches opened in England, while 2,757 closed. Although a considerable number of plants were highly effective, a substantial number were not.' Often the plant just cloned the existing church. ,The high failure rate of plants was surely related to replicating obsolescent models of church.' (see George Lings and Stuart Murray 'Church planting , Past, Present and Future') I am struck by the empasis on the individual person being the leader in what you write, rather than God speaking to a group and preparing the way-I'll describe my experience in my blog! Writing about church planting Moynagh says’` between 1989 and 1998 only 1,867 churches opened in England, while 2,757 closed. Although a considerable number of plants were highly effective, a substantial number were not.’ Often the plant just cloned the existing church. ,The high failure rate of plants was surely related to replicating obsolescent models of church.’ (see George Lings and Stuart Murray ‘Church planting , Past, Present and Future’)
I am struck by the empasis on the individual person being the leader in what you write, rather than God speaking to a group and preparing the way-I’ll describe my experience in my blog!

]]> By: TonyOhh http://faithuntamed.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/06/churchplantspeak-07/#comment-2378 TonyOhh Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:41:01 +0000 http://faithuntamed.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/06/churchplantspeak-07/#comment-2378 Bravo, well thought out. I have been harping on this for a while. We need to find those who want to serve, empower them and let them rip. Thanks Tone http://tonyohh.wordpress.com/2006/10/17/fire-them/ Bravo, well thought out. I have been harping on this for a while. We need to find those who want to serve, empower them and let them rip.
Thanks
Tone
http://tonyohh.wordpress.com/2006/10/17/fire-them/

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